The other thing too is that they're not Going to make any value judgments what's Better a degree from Stanford or a Degree from MIT but don't you think what Matters is like the degree itself like Maybe they don't make a judgment value Between two degrees but maybe they they Value someone who has a degree of Someone who doesn't that could be but What's more important I just got out of School from Penn State or I've got 30 Years experience in the in the industry Hands-On but I think that's why they Added experience they realized they'd Knock something you know but that 30 Years though isn't just the experience Of it but that is actually my expertise You know I've been a woodworker for 30 Years you just came out of school and You got a degree in woodworking you know You want to go to the person that's got The 30 years experience not the kid but How are they going to know that that's Not anything that they're not going to Get into I think and try to weigh those Types of things but what they can see in Any of the situations is that somebody's Actually written this stuff and then This is where I advocate using person Schema Foreign